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Orca Task Force

by geter' done
Anacortes, August 28, 2018

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Commodity Tonnage traveling through the Columbia/Snake River 1990 - 2016.  Notice that much of the tonnage comes on barge downstream of Lower Snake River and then passes through McNary lock.

revesible What is the number? It is a ratio. Hydropower Breakout - Steve Martin moderator 1st Session 1 Project abunande benefit What are the benefits to chinook abundance we need fish at the right time. Run timing is important. How long for benefits to occur When increases in No LRSCP production would abundance surpass Hatchery production under assumption that hatcheries close same time (is true for Lyons Ferry) follow up - if net losss what sort of Hatchery production Who has Authority to decomission to breach (who has the budget) how much time does this take how long will lawsuits take (congress has two months to protect them, but why would they? McMorris Rodgers bill failed. State's authority, green vest, fish shirt, goat WA state 77.57.030 Fish passage authority held by the state What is the role of BPA? EPA. others, FERC, Upgrades to impacs of transportation how much cost capacity issue CO2 impacts How to replace power CO2 impacts energy system grid impacts need see percentage increase but don't see numbers Senator Ranker has heard 4x but has not seen substantiation what base line are we using. 1890 for whales 0r 1990 for whales provide historic sluffing, slides, land use, first webinar these above (mostly) benefits by spill Why has past EIS not concluded with LSR dam breaching same for CRSO species that we are adding, will that lengthen process also asks what is the bang for the buck there are costs, right? dollar per fish Ranker, b) is already occuring in NEPA / CRSO process combine a) and c) as one sentence though c) really doesn't matter. We need action NOW Russ Red sweatshirt white hat We have cut harvest by 160 million cut in Puget Sound, 60 million Columbia since 1990 harvest Hatchry production in Washington is half what it was. That means a lot less fish for Orca. This is the case in both Bad ocean AND average ocean which we seem to be returning to. Sacramento, Rogue are coming back strong. It is repairing this time around as a South to North Repail. brown shirt white stripe, mustache Gary Chandler govt affairs AWB Assoc. Washington Business - Don Brunell once worked along side him Brown coat, blood red shirt, glasses, goatee White shirt grey hair, grey levis, salomon tennis shoes strike A --- isn't that spill caps. I was still lost on what they were discussing with A litigation - a judge can decide to stop the dewatering, or breaching. But only if it is an irreversible process (John Seiler) maybe silver hair, blue shirt white squres, thin glasses spill - a lot of the how long would dam removl get as compared towards what spill gets us "the ecosystem that we have dropped out of the decision?" are their more available options left in Corps toolbox do we need spill in Mid-Columiba? low Columbia, spill loses power production can we spill off the bottom to get cooler water (I think what about Idaho Power?) water chillers. when to spill. 24 hours spill, morning, night? response to windpower possibly Expedite NEPA process. CRSO Seven generation - breaching is reversible, extinction and ecosystem collapse is not. Session 3 What about the dams that have no fish passage? Why the focus on the LSR. NOAA Tech Memo says there is a sufficient mitigation by hatchery. I'd like to hear about this Tech Memo. Elwah saw decline of runs due to sediment. I long will it take to see benefits from LSR breaching. Could we prioritize Puget, Columbia, Fraser. life histroy and genetics, June Hogs, life history Why does spill cost so much? at some TDG, 130 or where is it that it balance. We want some science. ignoring the science so as an excuse to not lose money. Consecutive spill is their cumulative detriment to the fish if it is sold at a loss is it an economic loss? - Ken Session 2 If the LSR dams are breached 1) What are the benefits to Chinook abundance and How long will it take to return? Are there dams above the LSR how does that effect the removal What is current recovery plan. Is that question for both juvenile and adult. Adult is what matters 2) What impacts would occur to hatchery production halting would there be a net loss what is the baseline that we are using (Columbia mouth, for instance) what is current mitigation, what is the funding and what is the stability of that funding (potential loss of that funding?) 3) Who has authority to Decommission Who has authority to Breaching What is the role of list of federal agencies (ASK STEVE MARTIN) BPA, EPA, etc. What is the time line for breaching. How fast can things happen. What role can the governor have in this authority Washington, Idaho, Oregon. 5) What are the impacts to transportation and irrigation carbon impacts what would it cost to replace who funds how long will it take will they be in place before breaching add recreation 7) What are the implications of Court Rulings why have they not concluded in a definitive order to breach same question for NEPA/CRSO 8) What is the current NEPA process and timeline how does that change if Orca are included in that process Session 2 questions Cost of breaching what is the funding source. How are we focused on 4 LSR If removae skagit, we would have a complete river system. (does not address Idaho Power dams, FERC, maybe prepare some history) Does open the Salmon (Sunbeam is long gone). SPILL Increase spill caps in Washington. A matrix What are the benefits and impacts of spill gas increases, increase risk of death as spill increase possible increase in life where these three cost to F&W programs (Eliot made that call this year) does habitat money, etc. necessarily decrease with decrease revenue Smart spill wind solar duck curve additional alternatives are they being actively being pursued by BPA and relates to revenue loss but at same time benefits fish survival could Woosh technology help to get Adults upstream. get more information for interim technologies EXPEDITE process NEPA/ CRSO 1st group -- low priority so why bother? Easy to do, not much effective, so I'd rather have the Governor spend his time on something else if not possible, does this make us less credible. Are there other funds for non-listed fish that could see exponential benefit from habitat moneys. What moneys are available? Careen Cottingham says they have money for this (she does the State of the Salmon report) then later mentions past process that Targeting strongholds. Male pattern balding -- brown blue white checked stripes, black pants (Phil) Redhead - blue jeans, blue shirt white dots are hatchery good when done right? is it worth increasing hatchery production, with eye towards hatchery reform?


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